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true the Road has a brilliant depiction of a post-apocalyptic environment but my god I found it dull & i hated the ending. I've heard (unsuprisingly) that the book is much better so may pick that up at some point.

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Things I have seen most recently:

Toy Story 3 - The best of the three, IMO. Though if I was a little kid going to see a show about animate toys having an adventure, some scenes near the end would scare the <bleep> out of me. Of course maybe, as noted in Monsters, Inc., kids these days just don't scare like they used to.

Iron Man 2 - There have been enough good superhero movies recently that I guess I should retire my old yardstick of "Any superhero movie that doesn't suck is a good one". Iron man 2 didn't suck but it did feel like too many elements were squeezed into it and given too little time to flesh out properly. Spider-Man 3 had a similar feel to it.

Avatar - Though not a masterpiece of storytelling, it did have great special effects.

The Book of Eli - A very realistic movie. No, not the post-apocalyptic world. I mean the way the Bible was used as an excuse to kill a whole lot of people. In terms of the setting, don't the people who make post-apocalyptic movies ever wonder what people eat? Cannibalism may make a good plot element, but a bustling town in the desert requires agriculture of some sort, and the water rations people were being given would not support the production of any real food, but I digress....

The Road - Better than the book. More on this below.


I intend to see Wall-E and Kick-Ass. I will probably also see Despicable Me, though not in a theater. Roger Ebert says it's better in 2-D anyway.


Concerning Jin-Roh, The Wolf Brigade:
This isn't an action movie, in spite of the armored storm troopers. It does have a couple of features that I enjoy:
1) Intra-governmental conspiracies and backstabbing. Too bad we don't have coalition governments here in the US.... The idea that different agencies within the same government might be working against each other or in covert warfare makes for some very interesting stories. In Neon Genesis Evangelion, NERV is a government agency, but also a conspiracy that nobody trusts. Masamune Shirow's AppleSeed and Ghost in the Shell both deal with this, and elements within the government itself are often the main enemy, rather than outside forces.
2) The story takes place in a world that is recognizably our own, but subtly different, as if history had taken a slightly different course. Watchmen is like this, though most noticably in the book and not so much in the movie. Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise is another example of a world that is familiar but not quite like our own.


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true the Road has a brilliant depiction of a post-apocalyptic environment but my god I found it dull & i hated the ending. I've heard (unsuprisingly) that the book is much better so may pick that up at some point.
I thought I had posted a scathing review of The Road (the book) around here somewhere, but I can't find it. But I must say, I liked the movie better. This may contain SPOILERS if you have not read the book.

I think the book should have been named "Are we going to die now Daddy?" because the author uses the endless pitiful whining of the starving, terrified child to tug on your heart strings in every scene. Myself, I thought this was done in such a heavy-handed manner that I became more annoyed than touched by it. The movie cuts down on this effect considerably.

The moral of the book seems to be that you can remain good and noble, keep your family fed, and make sanctimonious speeches as long as you are consistently lucky. The man and the boy are never forced to make the horrible choices that the other unfortunates around them have already made, because they're always lucky. Every time they're starving to death, they miraculously find a bunker full of food, or a shipwreck full of food. The man never has to choose between watching his child die of starvation, or turning cannibal, or putting him out of his misery. It also helps that he's a ninja warrior who only needs one shot with any weapon to kill an opponent. The movie cuts down on this effect somewhat by downplaying how bad off they are when they find the shipwreck. The Disney-like happy ending appears in the book too.

Then there's the infamous "baby BBQ" scene which was mercifully omitted from the movie version. I guess my take on this is... if you're desperate enough to cook and eat a baby, you'd value that food enough to protect it and take it with you, and not leave it for someone else. I felt like that whole scene in the book was randomly inserted into the story to say "look at how horrible things are!" without any thought for the real ramifications of such an act.

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hmmm well maybe I'll just forget about the book as well then and put both versions of The Road in my "just don't like it" box and move on.

I'll take the opportunity to say again that Kick Arse is absolutely superb, Nic Cage has his best role for a long, long time.

Also I saw Girl with the dragon tattoo last night and that's another great film, kept me guessing all the way through.

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Well, The Road DID win a Pulitzer Prize, and I'm just some self-proclaimed expert on an Internet forum. Still, I suspect you would not like the book any better.

I did see Kick-Ass since making my previous post. I enjoyed it, but I did feel that the ending was dishonest and unsatisfying. The first 90% of the movie established that this was the plausible, real world where everyone, even superheroes, must obey the laws of physics. The ending tossed the laws of physics out the window and made me wonder if the screenwriter had suddenly been replaced before he'd finished the whole script.
However, I did hear from someone that the movie's ending was a big improvement over the original from the book.

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yeah I get what you're saying about the ending, haven't read the book so can't comment on that.

As for the road winning a Pulitzer Prize, I'm not up on book awards BUT if they're anything like movie awards getting one doesn't mean the winner as actually all that good :)

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Oh dear

I personally thought the Road was one of the best books I've ever read. The style of writing perfectly complements the subject matter, bleak, minimalistic and devoid of excess. Perfect.

To denounce the book because the 'hero' is "lucky" makes little or no sense. Every story features a protagonist who is lucky from Die Hard, to Frodo, to Noah. These guys are lucky.

The skill in writing was the emotion you felt when he discovered his lucky breaks (the bomb shelter), the relief was palpable.


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Bongo_clive wrote:
I personally thought the Road was one of the best books I've ever read. The style of writing perfectly complements the subject matter, bleak, minimalistic and devoid of excess. Perfect.
I fully agree that it's very bleak and minimalistic. You can feel the misery and hopelessness. People prone to depression or thoughts of suicide should not read The Road. And yet, you can create the most vivid and atmospheric world, and still fall back on cop-outs to solve your characters' problems. The Road has its strengths, but perfect? No.

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To denounce the book because the 'hero' is "lucky" makes little or no sense. Every story features a protagonist who is lucky from Die Hard, to Frodo, to Noah. These guys are lucky.
EVERY story features a protagonist who is lucky? Do you actually believe that? Maybe your definition of luck differs (wildly) from mine. For example, how is Noah lucky? His story, like many similar ones in the Bible, is a straightforward parable about the benefits of obedience to God:
1) Righteous man is chosen by God to <insert task here>.
2) The man is obedient and does what God wants.
3) God makes sure the righteous, obedient man doesn't get wrathed upon.
Where is the luck in this?

Now Frodo, he was lucky. But at least he didn't consistently rely on it to solve the same set of problems repeatedly.

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The skill in writing was the emotion you felt when he discovered his lucky breaks (the bomb shelter), the relief was palpable.
I did feel relief at their repeatedly lucky breaks, but I also noted how very convenient they were. And with repeated happy coincidences which were at odds with the otherwise bleak tone of the book, that feeling of "how convenient!" only grew.

But, like I told Screamingabdab... he can either believe ME or those Pulitzer Prize guys. What, are they experts on literature or something?


I have not seen any new movies recently, but I did watch Gattaca on Hulu. Though released in 1997, I had not seen it until now. It portrays a near-future society in which genetic engineering has brought about a new form of racism. Only those with superior genetics can get decent jobs, education or healthcare. Those less suited to succeed are considered inherently unfit and relegated to an underclass of menial, unskilled laborers. The protagonist is a flawed ordinary human whose one goal in life is to join the space program, which means infiltrating the genetic elite and passing as one of them.

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I liked Gattaca.

Last night I had the joy of watching Inception at IMAX. Now that is a fantastic film. I actually felt quiet physically/mentally drained at the end of the film, it really does draw you in and you (well me anyway) experience what the protagonists are going through to some degree.

Before seeing it I read of people saying that it was Nolan's masterpiece, better than Dark Knight. Now loving Dark Knight as much as I did it was hard to believe it could be better, but better it sure is.

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I had to remove some of my musings about Frodo and Sam from my earlier post as it was overly long.

However, I was just thinking about Gattaca. The dystopian dark future featuring Jude Law and bio-technology gone bad made me think of another movie I have not seen... Repo Men. I heard some bad reviews, but I wonder if anyone here has seen it.

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nope not seen it, when I first heard about I thought it would the kind of film I'd enjoy, but then I heard nothing else about it, guessing it had had a very quiet release and slipped away to DVD land.

Had actually completely forgotten about it until you mention it now, so I'll have to go have a search for it...

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Venator wrote:

Bongo_clive wrote:
To denounce the book because the 'hero' is "lucky" makes little or no sense. Every story features a protagonist who is lucky from Die Hard, to Frodo, to Noah. These guys are lucky.
EVERY story features a protagonist who is lucky? Do you actually believe that? Maybe your definition of luck differs (wildly) from mine. For example, how is Noah lucky? His story, like many similar ones in the Bible, is a straightforward parable about the benefits of obedience to God:
1) Righteous man is chosen by God to <insert>.
2) The man is obedient and does what God wants.
3) God makes sure the righteous, obedient man doesn't get wrathed upon.
Where is the luck in this?

Now Frodo, he was lucky. But at least he didn't consistently rely on it to solve the same set of problems repeatedly.

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Eh? How lucky would you feel if God chose you out of all the people on the world to save? That is EXTRA lucky


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Recently watched Let The Right One In, Outlander, The Crazies and Brother Hood Of The Wolf....again....never gets old that one.

all good in their own way. 8)

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just watched Repo Men and I can say that's it good. At first I wasn't that impressed, but the last 20-30mins are fantastic, left me gobsmacked :)

best thing about though is the soundtrack

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Wasn't "Repo Men" a play originally?

I watched "The Losers" which was a GIGANTIC disappointment.

Has anyone here seen "Scott pilgrim VS the World"?

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I hadn't heard anything about it originally being a play.
I thought The Losers was alright, I've not read the comics though.
Haven't seen Pilgrim Vs World, even thought it's from the great mind that brought us Hot Fuzz from seeing the trailers I think it'll be a film that'll annoy me more than entertain me.

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